The Side Effects of Vaccines - How High is the Risk?

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  • Published: 12 May 2019
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  • Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

    Dive into sources and further reading here: https://sites.google.com/view/sources-vaccines


    Vaccines and their side effects are a hard topic to cover – we know we keep saying this, but this case especially, there were a lot of things to consider. You can’t blame people for being worried, so we wanted to take their concerns seriously.


    Because it is impossible to cover everything there is to know about vaccines in a ten minute video our sources are extra extensive and explain a lot of aspects in more detail, with an extra focus on further reading.


    So if you want to dive in deeper or have more arguments at hand for your next heated discussion, here you go.

    • jsmyth024
      jsmyth024  2 days back

      I'm sorry, but we are the sickest species ON THE PLANET. Just think about that for ONE minute.
      Our gut microbiome is being sterilized by pesticides like round up, and we are told they are safe(yes, they kill the bacteria in your gut - shocker), but DON'T WORRY, they have something you can buy for that.

      We are developing autoimmune diseases left and right. A study was just released that shows how millennials health plummets at around age 27, and no one is concerned that it's something to do with out healthcare? "healthcare" - that's a misnomer at this point.

      The SAME people that push round-up as being safe(now proven to cause cancer in a court of law), "provide" us with cancer treatments and vaccines.

      The same people who sell us vaccines, treat our children of these chronic illnesses. NO ONE is brave enough(or intelligent enough) to raise an eyebrow to that?

      Oh, wait, they are, but then they are told they are just crazy conspiracy theorists who are probably literally hitler and voted for trump. And people fall for it because it makes them FEEL safe. Meanwhile over FIFTY PERCENT of our youth(YOUTH!) have chronic illnesses that the AMA says they will NEVER recover from. And it's not enough for these mega corps to make millions or billions, now they are pushing for trillions.

      That's not fishy to you guys?

      I swear, people have thrown common sense directly out of the nearest window for, "double blind published data" We will NEVER get it. There are too many variables involved and you know this, that's why you keep asking.

      Honestly it makes me sick and people who are working for them should be ashamed of themselves. They aren't, because they have money in the bank, but one day, people are going to have had enough and they will be found and prosecuted.

      How many more of our loved ones have to suffer and die before it gets to that point?

    • frick ajit pai
      frick ajit pai  3 days back

      Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell epic

    • joel marin
      joel marin  3 days back

      thank you for making this video, its been a great help for my social justice project. I hope to use this as a source to help write my letter to a politician, (who is undecided as of writing this), I really hope to make a change and to make vaccinations more mandatory in the united states!

    • Jarley
      Jarley  2 weeks back

      Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell you forgot one thing that vaccines cause:




      adult hood
      I don’t want that happening to my children

  • ABDI ANIMATION
    ABDI ANIMATION  6 minutes back

    I have no vaccines! I'm happy!

    • Whirlwind12 GMD
      Whirlwind12 GMD  12 minutes back

      I can't find antivaxxers. I will pretend to be one. This should be fun.








      Stupid people looking at this video... it isn't even real! Vaccines have loads of harmful ingredients in them such as Aluminium, Taste improvers (I am not even joking, that's in there) Thiomersal <--- THATS A TYPE OF MERCURY, and GMO's. We should be ALL NATURAL
      Be organic as much as possible! Wash your hands, be hygienic. Big pharma is poisoning us and we will all be autistic!

      • jsmyth024
        jsmyth024  2 hours back

        The idiocy in this comments section is absolutely staggering. You guys REALLY think this video is educational? I bet you think Bill Nye and Myth Busters are just peachy and have an "I fucking love science" t-shirt, dontcha? You know what feels even better than acting like you're smart? Actually doing your research and knowing what you're talking about.
        But you know what's easier than thinking for yourself? Letting other people think for you. Then you make "savage" comments about people who dare to disagree, while projecting your stupidity onto them(by calling them stupid).
        Hell, most of you haven't even been able to read long enough to make it to the end of this comment. TL;DR! LOL! But if you have, I'll commend you and ask you not to believe me. DO your own research and particularly, look into the work of Dr. Shoenfeld. His resume and qualifications are so extensive that I can't even post it all without copy/pasting, and that gets my comments deleted. He's dedicated his entire life to studying autoimmune diseases. He says vaccines are causing them when you have the right genetics for it. That's why not everyone gets them. He has videos on youtube. You can read his qualifications there(one being the HEAD CHAIR of medicine at TEL AVIV university(the most prestigious university in Israel and top ten in the world outside of the US). Over 1600 published papers and he's been cited by professionals over 20,000 times. He's no quack. Look into it. Or keep letting other people think for you and hope you never lose a loved one to chronic illness that you could have stopped if you weren't so damn lazy/distracted/willfully ignorant.

        • Whirlwind12 GMD
          Whirlwind12 GMD  25 minutes back

          +d3ds1r the programmer question is did you actually read his comment and look into it? I am looking into as I type this

        • d3ds1r the programmer
          d3ds1r the programmer  37 minutes back

          jsmyth024 get out of there you fucking murderer

        • Whirlwind12 GMD
          Whirlwind12 GMD  48 minutes back

          It is educational though that's the thing, and if anything, this comment is hypocritical. "But you know what's easier than thinking for yourself? Letting other people think for you." You then go tell us to listen to some other guy and believe everything he says. "Then you make "savage" comments about people who dare to disagree, while projecting your stupidity onto them(by calling them stupid)." Your entire comment is dedicated to calling people stupid for believing something. And yes, I did read the entire comment. You ask me not to believe you, but I will post this comment anyway, because I am already a lot of words in and I am not letting this go to waste.

          Edit: Could you please link some of doctor Shoenfield's videos and articles? I can't seem to find any.

      • Harvey Sun
        Harvey Sun  4 hours back

        Can you please make a video about a black hole vs everything in the universe? Thanks!

        • Rio Agustian
          Rio Agustian  5 hours back

          _"One, since video started"_

          T_T

          • PixelizedKitten
            PixelizedKitten  5 hours back

            Wtf everyone... I support every antivaxxer out there.



            It’s survival of the fittest, the less spawns they have, the better.

            • Ryan Aint Gamin'
              Ryan Aint Gamin'  5 hours back

              the 7.4k people who disliked are the anti vaxxers that got jabaited by the clickbait title that “proves their point”

              • panggop jio
                panggop jio  6 hours back

                I wanna bet $600 that all the dislikes on tgis video are anti-vaxxers

                • Whirlwind12 GMD
                  Whirlwind12 GMD  46 minutes back

                  *Dislikes video and isn't an antivaxxer*

                  *_pay up, sucker_*

              • PhantomGamerHD
                PhantomGamerHD  6 hours back

                3:06 Wasted

                • Evan Thomas
                  Evan Thomas  6 hours back

                  Unfortunately, one of the devastating conditions I received from big pharma as a vaccine injured child, I've been diagnosed with:
                  Living over the age of five
                  Not dying in measles outbreaks
                  Not being sick constantly
                  Being unable to spread deadly disease to those who are unable to get vaccinated

                  Please pray for me 😭😭😭 It's difficult waking up every day to find out that I'm not going to die of easily preventable disease.

                  • Musicman928
                    Musicman928  7 hours back

                    Came here for triggered anti-vaxxers, was disappointed ☹️

                    • Zyzynx
                      Zyzynx  7 hours back

                      Anti-Vax mom:Clicks on video
                      Kurzgesagt:You fool. You fell victim to one of the classic blunders.

                      • Plague Seeker
                        Plague Seeker  7 hours back

                        Overpopulation is the biggest side effect of vaccines.

                        • Don Voltonus
                          Don Voltonus  7 hours back

                          One note for the creator of the vid, you should also take care WHO give you vaccines. Under-trained pharmacists have had a few cases of accidentally injecting joints with flu-shots, and causing permanent damage.

                          • b4lt4z4rG
                            b4lt4z4rG  8 hours back

                            Bill & Melinda Gates refuse to vaccinate their own children
                            dr Martin Gore popped minutes after getting his toxic fix

                            but ignorance is best of all until it comes the time to pay for it

                            • Tautologist
                              Tautologist  6 hours back

                              The story about Bill Gates not vaccinating his kids is from a writer for one of the most infamous misinformation news websites on the internet. It's called "YourNewsWire" - look it up. If you want to believe that fake news then that really shows who's ignorant here. Also, the Martin Gore tragedy, while sad, is not some unexpected phenomena. Everyone knows that, in rare cases, vaccines can cause some serious side effects, especially for someone Gore's age. The thing is, the risks involved with the yellow fever vaccine that he died from are much less serious then the disease it prevents.

                          • The sick Cichled
                            The sick Cichled  8 hours back

                            Can you debunk flat earth please
                            Please vote one like one vote one dislike one less vote

                            • Sanhinda Peiris
                              Sanhinda Peiris  13 minutes back

                              +Whirlwind12 GMD yeah for me it's like the lesser of two stupidities...

                            • Whirlwind12 GMD
                              Whirlwind12 GMD  45 minutes back

                              People actually have reasons for being antivaxx, but plain stupidity is being a flat earther.

                            • Sanhinda Peiris
                              Sanhinda Peiris  3 hours back

                              +Rui Wang agreed...

                            • Rui Wang
                              Rui Wang  5 hours back

                              The sick Cichled Its just a waste of time.

                          • Leo Raykher
                            Leo Raykher  9 hours back

                            is it possible to be patriotic for your own body cuz thats what I was feeling at the beginning of the video lmao

                            • Plinkplink Fizz
                              Plinkplink Fizz  9 hours back

                              Brilliant! Show me an anti vaccination supporter and I will show you an idiot.

                              • Whirlwind12 GMD
                                Whirlwind12 GMD  45 minutes back

                                Look at the comment below yours. there is an antivaxxer named Ese Callum

                            • Ese Callum
                              Ese Callum  9 hours back

                              Remember: Vaccines can cause serious health problems including brain inflammation and autoimmune disorders, allergies, ear infections, and more There's a very real association between vaccine complications and learning and behavioral disorders in children The components of vaccines have never been proven safe The ingredients and contaminants in vaccines can be detrimental to your health There are far safer and more effective ways to protect your children and yourself against disease. For example, a Japanese study from last year showed that school children taking vitamin D3 supplements were 58 percent less likely to catch influenza A. That's a higher effectiveness than any flu vaccine can claim, and doesn't come with a barrage of potentially devastating side effects!

                              • the protobe
                                the protobe  4 hours back

                                Has there been any confirmed case of this said vaccine side effect?

                              • Tautologist
                                Tautologist  5 hours back

                                There isn't a "very real association between vaccine complications and behavioral disorders in children." This is essentially an unnecessary, long winded way to say that "vaccines cause autism", and they don't. Stop spreading this misinformation that has absolutely zero evidence.

                                The components in vaccines are rigorously tested. Vaccines have one of the highest research standards of any medical procedure since they are used as a preventative measure instead of a treatment. You get far more of some of the components in vaccines from the food you eat and the environment you live in than from vaccines themselves.

                                There currently isn't a more effective way to prevent some diseases other than getting vaccinated. While you may be able to take vitamin D3 or whatever for the influenza virus, you can't do the same for measles, polio, tetanus and others. No vitamin or nutritional supplement is going to save any kid from getting ravaged by those horrible diseases.

                              • Solomon Settee
                                Solomon Settee  8 hours back

                                i argee

                              • AzmahStudios
                                AzmahStudios  8 hours back

                                no, vaccinating is far better

                            • ChaosLord
                              ChaosLord  10 hours back

                              Another great video on an important topic, but I think it fell short on the most important point to make to anti-vaxxers: vaccines and Autism. Yes, you said they don't cause Autism, but there's no explanation for why people think that. Mainly, the similar age between when Autism can be diagnosed and when vaccines are given, but this correlation is not causation. Both vaccines and diagnosing Autism happen around the same age for completely separate but specific reasons, which are not at all related to each other. THAT is the information anti-vaxxers need to hear.

                              • Bradley Bridge
                                Bradley Bridge  11 hours back

                                Anti vaccination humans

                                • Exotixz
                                  Exotixz  11 hours back

                                  Vaccinations aren't inherently bad. The MMR vaccines, however, are bad, since they're given to children at 4 months of age. Not only that, they'll give you 14 or so of them in one session.

                                  • eeeaten
                                    eeeaten  5 hours back

                                    Exotixz mmr isn’t given until after a year, usually 18mo. Everything you say is wrong.

                                • Lucifronz
                                  Lucifronz  11 hours back

                                  All these many thousand years of scientific advancements to reach vaccines and now we have to defend them from people afraid their child might develop high-functioning autism or get "poisoned".


                                  I so wish they would actually listen to reason and take in the information from videos and sources like this... but the truth is I doubt any of them would listen no matter how calmly or rationally you tried to convince them. In their minds, they are right and you are just an ignorant fool for trying to explain otherwise. Hence, I lose my temper and tell them what I really think of them.


                                  I don't feel it makes a difference either way. They are set in their ways and only the deaths of their children (and themselves) will show them otherwise. I will not feel sorry for them, because by then they'll have killed many unvaccinated people who could not get the treatment that others could for one reason or another.


                                  Vaccines save lives. If can't see that, you just don't want to and I do not respect you for that. No one should.

                                  • Lucifronz
                                    Lucifronz  11 hours back

                                    +A Gamer I hate them, but I don't know if I'd go that far. Maybe hit them over the head for a mild concussion.


                                    But frankly, I wouldn't feel bad to hear about it. They are causing serious harm to both scientific progress and putting tons of children at risk. Not even just children, but people with compromised or otherwise ineffective immune systems. I swear, if even one person I care about comes CLOSE to someone with a preventable disease because of these people, I might have to be restrained to not pull out a gun myself.

                                  • A Gamer
                                    A Gamer  11 hours back

                                    Lucifronz imo doctors should be given guns and allowed to kill antivaxxers on the spot

                                • Ixion Music
                                  Ixion Music  11 hours back

                                  Stop feeding your kids! They could choke!

                                  -Karen 2019

                                  • A Gamer
                                    A Gamer  11 hours back

                                    Ixion Music stop breathing! you could die!

                                • Antecomneno
                                  Antecomneno  12 hours back

                                  7.4k dislikes.
                                  We can safely assume those are anti-vaxxers.
                                  Only, none of them are posting any comments here.
                                  I guess that says a lot. I bet you tards are reading this, too.

                                  • Jayden Yeo
                                    Jayden Yeo  9 hours back

                                    Antecomneno that or people didn’t watch the video, just saw the title, saw it as pro Antivax and immediately disliked it lol

                                • 73Broadcast By 73 Brands
                                  73Broadcast By 73 Brands  12 hours back

                                  My nanny (Grandma) grew up in the era where there was NO VACCINES. She contracted EVERYTHING. She survived the measles, chickenpox, & mumps. Other people, sadly, didn't. The only reasons people shouldn't get vaccinated is that 1. If you or your child are allergic. 2. If you have a severe medical condition (Cancer, HIV/AIDS, etc.). Or 3. If you are too old or too young to get vaccinated. If you are healthy, not allergic, and at the right age range, you SHOULD get vaccinated. The pros of vaccines will always outweigh the cons. As for my nanny, she's alive and well at the age of 82.

                                  • Whirlwind12 GMD
                                    Whirlwind12 GMD  11 hours back

                                    73Broadcast By 73 Brands prepared for every karen to read the first sentence and be like PROOF

                                • GregThe Gengar
                                  GregThe Gengar  12 hours back

                                  I wanna bet $600 that all the dislikes on tgis video are anti-vaxxers

                                  • Whirlwind12 GMD
                                    Whirlwind12 GMD  11 hours back

                                    GregThe Gengar *dislikes video amd isnt antivaxx*
                                    pay

                                • D- train
                                  D- train  13 hours back

                                  The main stream people are eating this Bull Shit up, stop watching TV stop going to main stream school stop paying TAXES stop the illusion that OIL is going to run out stop funding the INTERNATIONAL BANKERS stop believing everything you are told. O ya BIG PHARMA KILLS 100,000,000 people every year.

                                  • Jayden Yeo
                                    Jayden Yeo  1 hours back

                                    D- train we need a source/research paper/evidence of those numbers. Without it we can just accuse you of pulling those numbers out of your ass.

                                    And yes in some cases vaccines will have serious effects, if it does you shouldn’t be taking vaccines at all. Like the video explained this only effects a very small portion of the population so they will have to rely on herd immunity

                                    And no he did not say that but the way he said it was misleading. He thinks that better healthcare overall will result in negative population growth (but the overall population will still grow). In simple terms he wants to decrease child birth rates in order to stabilize the world population. He’s not saying vaccines or better healthcare will actually reduce the population overall or negative in anyway. Now how he came up with that conclusion I have no clue. If you want to know you can search that up

                                  • D- train
                                    D- train  2 hours back

                                    New phone sorry about that didn't mean to get everyone's panties in a wad, but isn't BIG PHARMAS death toll about 100,000 people a year I thought I saw that number before??? Vaccines kill people as well and give them life changing defaults that they have to deal with for the rest of their lives. Hasn't anyone seen Bill Gates talking about depopulation, he says " with the right vaccine we could bring that number down" he is talking about the co2 and carbon footprint of people per year, so with the right vaccines he could reduce the co2 & carbon by way of vaccine kill the people stop global warming.

                                  • Jayden Yeo
                                    Jayden Yeo  9 hours back

                                    D- train where did you even get those numbers? Lmao

                                  • Lenni Mankki
                                    Lenni Mankki  11 hours back

                                    Yes this is a very good example of trust issues.

                                  • Whirlwind12 GMD
                                    Whirlwind12 GMD  11 hours back

                                    D- train No proof of what you just said.

                                • robolex turner
                                  robolex turner  13 hours back

                                  "feeling are often immune to facts"

                                  Yup that's how most of the political debates go aswell 😔

                                  • Zealord94
                                    Zealord94  13 hours back

                                    Vaccine cause disease in me,it's called aging. Great, now I've started to become old rather than died at young age

                                    • Bat3p
                                      Bat3p  14 hours back

                                      All dislikes are antivaxxers

                                      • Dorothy Isidro
                                        Dorothy Isidro  15 hours back

                                        Nobody:
                                        Not even a single soul:
                                        Kurgesagt: antimates a bird which looks like a cell (that little black bird ball)

                                        • The World of Chachundar
                                          The World of Chachundar  15 hours back

                                          Kurzgesagt is a real fan of pokémon

                                          • Brinch
                                            Brinch  15 hours back

                                            I really don't believe Kurzgesagt made a clickbait title to lure in antivaxxers (even though that is a good thing). I think they're just being as honest and upfront about vaccines as they can be, so no one can see them as "one-sided", or "manipulative". They are acknowledging that there are risks.

                                            • Jel Gamer
                                              Jel Gamer  16 hours back

                                              Every karen ever watching this video: "Well acorrding to this website, it's bad"

                                              • A rare pepe
                                                A rare pepe  16 hours back

                                                Such mad lads




                                                *thank you.*

                                                • Ese Callum
                                                  Ese Callum  16 hours back

                                                  The appalling record of ‘Big Pharma’:
                                                  32.
                                                  Pharmaceutical companies have a terrible record of corporate crimes.
                                                  "A recent study from US Public Citizen found that, since 1991, there have been
                                                  239 legal
                                                  settlements, totali
                                                  ng $30.2 billion
                                                  in federal and state penalties, levied against US
                                                  pharmaceutical companies.
                                                  There’s a real laundry list
                                                  of crimes, but defrauding the
                                                  government, hiding drug safety informat
                                                  ion, and hawking drug
                                                  s for purposes beyond
                                                  which they are approved
                                                  are the main ones. Drug companies have pledged to change, signed
                                                  ‘corporate integrity agreements’ and indicated that they want to move on, promising a better
                                                  future. We can be hopeful, but we also have to be
                                                  realistic. Paying huge fines for illegal activity
                                                  is one thing, but will they be
                                                  still playing the eminence game? W
                                                  ill they continue to fund their
                                                  own experts and do research that goes through a selective reporting of ‘the evidence’? Sadly,
                                                  that’s probably going to be the case so you must immunise yourself: keep asking questions and
                                                  questioning answers." (10)
                                                  33.
                                                  Recently Forbes magazine concluded that the pharmaceutical industry is ‘
                                                  addicted to
                                                  fraud’,
                                                  whilst
                                                  Merck is being sued by its own scientists
                                                  over a raft of frauds
                                                  relating to its
                                                  MMR vaccine
                                                  . (20) The list of alleged frauds is fa
                                                  r-ranging including failing to disclose a
                                                  reduced efficacy, using ‘improper testing techni
                                                  ques’, manipulation of testing methodologies,
                                                  falsifying test data, with holding data, and forgery of compliance documents. This kind of
                                                  behavior has become entirely common in the pharmaceutical industry.
                                                  Issues with risk minimization:
                                                  34.
                                                  Correct risk minimization approaches are often inverted, with consumers and
                                                  independent researchers expected to definitively prove harm, rather than the onus being on the
                                                  product provider to firmly establish safety. The ‘P
                                                  recautionary Principle’ – ‘if in doubt leave it
                                                  out’ – has been largely bypassed, and the terms of reference inverted.
                                                  35.
                                                  Pharmaceutical companies have positioned themselves so that policy makers often feel
                                                  constricted in holding them to the same levels of risk minimization as other industries, due to the
                                                  perception that they may forego important research, or cease delivering other effective products
                                                  if their operations are subjected to
                                                  greater scrutiny and bureaucracy.
                                                  36.
                                                  Negative effects of pharmaceutical products are often diffused in the wider community,
                                                  and not always easy to quantify due to inadequate reportage and monitoring. Unlike an airline
                                                  disaster which has a very immediate consequence, the negative effects of a particular
                                                  pharmaceutical product may be less discernable,
                                                  especially if the effects are more long term.
                                                  37.
                                                  Most people would agree that if a disease usually has a very low mortality rate, any
                                                  vaccine intended to prevent it must be unequivo
                                                  cally safe and effective. Proper risk assessments
                                                  are made difficult by the lack of robust monitoring of adverse events; the suppression of
                                                  independent science, the with holding of clinical data, and myriad other issues mentioned in this
                                                  paper.
                                                  38.
                                                  No scientific research has been conducted comparing vaccinated with unvaccinated
                                                  populations, in terms of overall,
                                                  long term health outcomes.
                                                  Call for reform and greater transparency:
                                                  39.
                                                  The dealings of the pharmaceutical industry in Australia appear to be largely exempt
                                                  from Freedom of Information requests, and there is a lack of transparency surrounding possible
                                                  Conflict of Interest situations on advisory bodies. Dr Whitely has also called for mandatory
                                                  reporting of serious adverse events, and break ou
                                                  t boxes on products warning of possible serious
                                                  side effects. (4)
                                                  40.
                                                  So far calls to bring the industry in line with
                                                  the expectations of other industries have
                                                  been largely ignored.
                                                  Issues with the applicatio
                                                  n of ‘informed consent’:
                                                  41.
                                                  The principle of ‘informed consent’ requires that patients be informed of all risks and
                                                  benefits associated with any medical procedure, and that a decision be made free from coercion.
                                                  In an environment where pharmaceutical marketing, the media, and various ‘attack ‘ groups
                                                  hystericise the general population and vilify critics and independent researchers, the notion of
                                                  ‘informed consent’ has become problematic. Consumers clearly feel pressurized.
                                                  42.
                                                  Linking the decision to vaccinate to the provision of childcare available to everyone else,
                                                  further complicates this. It can be argued that such
                                                  policy enters a grey area in terms of informed
                                                  consent.
                                                  43.
                                                  Vaccination providers also seem reluctant to provide consumers with information on
                                                  possible adverse effects. Many maintain the narrative that vaccines are ‘safe and effective’ in all
                                                  instances, despite package inserts clearly outlining possible adverse effects. An audit of how
                                                  vaccination providers approach ‘informed consent’ is urgently needed.
                                                  Unresolved liability issues:
                                                  44.
                                                  As the parents of Saba Button - who was permanently injured by a flu shot - found there
                                                  is a lack of clarity when it comes to liability.
                                                  (15) Australia is one of only three Western nations
                                                  that does not have a vaccine injury compensation scheme despite the World Health Organisation
                                                  arguing it is an ‘ethical necessity’. In the case of an injury there is no clear indication of who
                                                  takes responsibility.
                                                  45.
                                                  If the parents of a vaccine injured child feel their decision to vaccinate was prompted by
                                                  government policy, does the government take responsibility if their child is injured as a result? It
                                                  would appear not. Pharmaceutical companies and vaccination providers also seem to avoid
                                                  liability. This question requires immediate clar
                                                  ification. Currently there is a policy void
                                                  surrounding issues of lia
                                                  bility and compensation.

                                                  • Whirlwind12 GMD
                                                    Whirlwind12 GMD  41 minutes back

                                                    Source?

                                                  • E Nc
                                                    E Nc  4 hours back

                                                    +Callum Ferns He's already vaccinated I'm sure. It's these idiots CHILDREN who suffer for it. It should be considered child abuse if you don't vaccinate and your child is healthy enough to receive.

                                                  • Callum Ferns
                                                    Callum Ferns  9 hours back

                                                    +Ese Callum nobody fuckin cares because we got vaccinated and don't have autism unlike you bitch

                                                  • Ese Callum
                                                    Ese Callum  11 hours back

                                                    +Red Phoenix The appalling record of ‘Big Pharma’:
                                                    32.
                                                    Pharmaceutical companies have a terrible record of corporate crimes.
                                                    "A recent study from US Public Citizen found that, since 1991, there have been
                                                    239 legal
                                                    settlements, totali
                                                    ng $30.2 billion
                                                    in federal and state penalties, levied against US
                                                    pharmaceutical companies.
                                                    There’s a real laundry list
                                                    of crimes, but defrauding the
                                                    government, hiding drug safety informat
                                                    ion, and hawking drug
                                                    s for purposes beyond
                                                    which they are approved
                                                    are the main ones. Drug companies have pledged to change, signed
                                                    ‘corporate integrity agreements’ and indicated that they want to move on, promising a better
                                                    future. We can be hopeful, but we also have to be
                                                    realistic. Paying huge fines for illegal activity
                                                    is one thing, but will they be
                                                    still playing the eminence game? W
                                                    ill they continue to fund their
                                                    own experts and do research that goes through a selective reporting of ‘the evidence’? Sadly,
                                                    that’s probably going to be the case so you must immunise yourself: keep asking questions and
                                                    questioning answers." (10)
                                                    33.
                                                    Recently Forbes magazine concluded that the pharmaceutical industry is ‘
                                                    addicted to
                                                    fraud’,
                                                    whilst
                                                    Merck is being sued by its own scientists
                                                    over a raft of frauds
                                                    relating to its
                                                    MMR vaccine
                                                    . (20) The list of alleged frauds is fa
                                                    r-ranging including failing to disclose a
                                                    reduced efficacy, using ‘improper testing techni
                                                    ques’, manipulation of testing methodologies,
                                                    falsifying test data, with holding data, and forgery of compliance documents. This kind of
                                                    behavior has become entirely common in the pharmaceutical industry.
                                                    Issues with risk minimization:
                                                    34.
                                                    Correct risk minimization approaches are often inverted, with consumers and
                                                    independent researchers expected to definitively prove harm, rather than the onus being on the
                                                    product provider to firmly establish safety. The ‘P
                                                    recautionary Principle’ – ‘if in doubt leave it
                                                    out’ – has been largely bypassed, and the terms of reference inverted.
                                                    35.
                                                    Pharmaceutical companies have positioned themselves so that policy makers often feel
                                                    constricted in holding them to the same levels of risk minimization as other industries, due to the
                                                    perception that they may forego important research, or cease delivering other effective products
                                                    if their operations are subjected to
                                                    greater scrutiny and bureaucracy.
                                                    36.
                                                    Negative effects of pharmaceutical products are often diffused in the wider community,
                                                    and not always easy to quantify due to inadequate reportage and monitoring. Unlike an airline
                                                    disaster which has a very immediate consequence, the negative effects of a particular
                                                    pharmaceutical product may be less discernable,
                                                    especially if the effects are more long term.
                                                    37.
                                                    Most people would agree that if a disease usually has a very low mortality rate, any
                                                    vaccine intended to prevent it must be unequivo
                                                    cally safe and effective. Proper risk assessments
                                                    are made difficult by the lack of robust monitoring of adverse events; the suppression of
                                                    independent science, the with holding of clinical data, and myriad other issues mentioned in this
                                                    paper.
                                                    38.
                                                    No scientific research has been conducted comparing vaccinated with unvaccinated
                                                    populations, in terms of overall,
                                                    long term health outcomes.
                                                    Call for reform and greater transparency:
                                                    39.
                                                    The dealings of the pharmaceutical industry in Australia appear to be largely exempt
                                                    from Freedom of Information requests, and there is a lack of transparency surrounding possible
                                                    Conflict of Interest situations on advisory bodies. Dr Whitely has also called for mandatory
                                                    reporting of serious adverse events, and break ou
                                                    t boxes on products warning of possible serious
                                                    side effects. (4)
                                                    40.
                                                    So far calls to bring the industry in line with
                                                    the expectations of other industries have
                                                    been largely ignored.
                                                    Issues with the applicatio
                                                    n of ‘informed consent’:
                                                    41.
                                                    The principle of ‘informed consent’ requires that patients be informed of all risks and
                                                    benefits associated with any medical procedure, and that a decision be made free from coercion.
                                                    In an environment where pharmaceutical marketing, the media, and various ‘attack ‘ groups
                                                    hystericise the general population and vilify critics and independent researchers, the notion of
                                                    ‘informed consent’ has become problematic. Consumers clearly feel pressurized.
                                                    42.
                                                    Linking the decision to vaccinate to the provision of childcare available to everyone else,
                                                    further complicates this. It can be argued that such
                                                    policy enters a grey area in terms of informed
                                                    consent.
                                                    43.
                                                    Vaccination providers also seem reluctant to provide consumers with information on
                                                    possible adverse effects. Many maintain the narrative that vaccines are ‘safe and effective’ in all
                                                    instances, despite package inserts clearly outlining possible adverse effects. An audit of how
                                                    vaccination providers approach ‘informed consent’ is urgently needed.
                                                    Unresolved liability issues:
                                                    44.
                                                    As the parents of Saba Button - who was permanently injured by a flu shot - found there
                                                    is a lack of clarity when it comes to liability.
                                                    (15) Australia is one of only three Western nations
                                                    that does not have a vaccine injury compensation scheme despite the World Health Organisation
                                                    arguing it is an ‘ethical necessity’. In the case of an injury there is no clear indication of who
                                                    takes responsibility.
                                                    45.
                                                    If the parents of a vaccine injured child feel their decision to vaccinate was prompted by
                                                    government policy, does the government take responsibility if their child is injured as a result? It
                                                    would appear not. Pharmaceutical companies and vaccination providers also seem to avoid
                                                    liability. This question requires immediate clar
                                                    ification. Currently there is a policy void
                                                    surrounding issues of lia
                                                    bility and compensation.

                                                  • Ese Callum
                                                    Ese Callum  11 hours back

                                                    +Red Phoenix i suggest you shut up and do that and get the 241 vaccinations big pharma want you to take.

                                                • Ese Callum
                                                  Ese Callum  16 hours back

                                                  g.
                                                  Mobilizing patient and consumer gr
                                                  oups to represent their interests.
                                                  h.
                                                  Manipulating a compliant media, which is at times compromised by conflicts of interest,
                                                  especially at an executive level where a cross
                                                  pollination occurs with ph
                                                  armaceutical interests
                                                  occurs.(16) They also exploit the quick turnaround in the media which can mitigate against in
                                                  depth research.
                                                  i.
                                                  Lobbying policy makers and opinion leaders.
                                                  j.
                                                  Selective use of statistics. For example globa
                                                  l statistics on disease mortality are often
                                                  used to panic policy makers in Western nations.
                                                  Issues with nutrition, hygiene and so forth in
                                                  some ‘third world’ nations may play a significan
                                                  t role in mortality figures for diseases which
                                                  have low mortality in robust individuals in Western nations.
                                                  k.
                                                  An ‘all of nothing’ approach that lumps all vaccine /disease combinations together, and
                                                  leverages the most extreme disease threats to compel compliance with a vaccine based approach
                                                  to those with low mortality. The ‘pro/anti’ dual
                                                  ism is also used to sideline and discredit anyone
                                                  who presents critical research of a particular product.
                                                  30.
                                                  Aside from pharmaceutical marketing there is a more complex and less easily understood
                                                  phenomenon involving groups and individuals that present themselves as being pro ‘science’ or
                                                  more specifically pro vaccination. They often ta
                                                  ke it upon themselves to run campaigns against
                                                  individuals or groups that they perceive as bein
                                                  g critical of vaccination. Their tactics can be
                                                  crude but effective, and at times of questionable legality. They can include:
                                                  a.
                                                  Cyber bullying and threats.
                                                  b.
                                                  Disinformation campaigns including misrepresenting research.
                                                  c.
                                                  Making spurious complain
                                                  ts to academic institution
                                                  s and professional bodies.
                                                  d.
                                                  Disseminating fictitious personal information designed to cause embarrassment or a loss
                                                  of credibility.
                                                  e.
                                                  Using seemingly authoritative or popular
                                                  websites to launch attacks designed to
                                                  hystericise consumers, and ostracize critics. In some instances the wording can be considered
                                                  ‘hate speech’ and adds to an atmosphere of fear surrounding this issue.
                                                  27.
                                                  One of the world’s most awarded journalists Sharyl Atkisson describes this as the ‘astro
                                                  turf’ movement. She has researched the tactics used by pharmaceutical concerns and their allies
                                                  to silence the very many researchers from eminent Universities who are critical of their products.
                                                  “.....if the propagandists are to be believed, each of the researchers is an incompetent crank,
                                                  quack, nut or fraud (and, of course, “anti-vaccin
                                                  e” for daring to dabble in research that........
                                                  leads to vaccine safety
                                                  issues). The scientists and their re
                                                  search are “controversial,” simply
                                                  because the propagandists declare them to be........“Weak,” “too small,” “haphazard,” “not
                                                  replicated,” “junk science,” “flawed,” “unrelated,” declare the propagandists, without exception.
                                                  Just as attackers spent years challenging any study that linked tobacco to lung cancer.
                                                  They know that
                                                  reporters who don’t do their homework
                                                  will conduct an Internet search, run
                                                  across the blogs with science-y sounding names, and
                                                  uncritically accept their word as if it’s
                                                  fact
                                                  and prevailing thought.” (17)
                                                  31.
                                                  Pharmaceutical marketing leverages off a kind of religious fervor that surrounds this
                                                  issue. Dr Jefferson has said that ‘
                                                  vaccines have become like a religion
                                                  ... something you don’t
                                                  question. If you do, you are seen as being an anti-vaccine extremist. The authorities do not want
                                                  to hear ‘side-effect’(18)

                                                • Ese Callum
                                                  Ese Callum  16 hours back

                                                  Correlative studies:
                                                  22
                                                  Correlative studies cannot be considered definitive, but in conjunction with other research
                                                  they often indicate areas that require further examination. There has so far not been an
                                                  exhaustive and independent study comparing more general health outcomes between vaccinated
                                                  and non vaccinated children. Can we definitively
                                                  say we are not trading one health issue for
                                                  another?
                                                  23.
                                                  A report in ‘Human and Experimental Toxicology’ stated:
                                                  "Our findings show
                                                  a positive correlation
                                                  between the
                                                  number of vaccine doses
                                                  administered
                                                  and the
                                                  percentage of hospitalisations and deaths
                                                  "? (12)
                                                  24.
                                                  And, "the US childhood vaccination schedule has 26 doses for infants aged less than 1
                                                  year, the most in the world, yet 33 nations have better Infant Mortality Rates......
                                                  Nations that
                                                  require more vaccine doses tend to ha
                                                  ve higher infant mortality rates
                                                  "(13)
                                                  25.
                                                  A Spanish research team concluded that, “vaccines containing adjuvants may be
                                                  associated with an
                                                  increased risk of autoimmune/inflammatory adverse events
                                                  following
                                                  immunization”(14)
                                                  Regulation and monitoring:
                                                  26.
                                                  In a submission to parliament Dr Martin Whitely, senior advocate for the Western
                                                  Australian Health Consumers Council stated:
                                                  “When licensing drugs for marketing Australia
                                                  ’s Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA)
                                                  relies on research funded and controlled by pharmaceutical companies. Too often pharmaceutical
                                                  companies ‘
                                                  cherry pick’ favorable evidence and hide or ‘spin’ unfavorable evidence
                                                  to
                                                  support their commercial interests.” (4)
                                                  27.
                                                  Most vaccination proponents will argue that
                                                  serious adverse reactions are rare, but a big
                                                  problem is that we do not have accurate, agreed upon figures. During the height of the flu
                                                  vaccine adverse reactions in 2010 Peter Collignon, a professor of infectious diseases from the
                                                  Australian National University, was
                                                  interviewed by ABC news. He felt
                                                  the number of adverse
                                                  reactions was probably under estimated
                                                  , given that authorities don’t have a congruent and
                                                  approachable system to monitor peoples’ reactions. He believed that an effective surveillance
                                                  system should monitor a sample group of thousands for one or two weeks before a new vaccine
                                                  is rolled out for the entire population. "We need a better system than voluntary notification to the
                                                  TGA (Therapeutic Goods Administration) that there's a problem," he said. "Because whenever
                                                  you do that you really underestimate how much of a problem there is. (15)
                                                  28.
                                                  Dr. Whitely has argued that there needs to be mandatory reporting of adverse events. (4)
                                                  Without agreed upon figures for adverse events an accurate risk analysis cannot be undertaken,
                                                  and we are unable to state whether the current schedule of vaccinations is in fact safe, or creating
                                                  more negative health outcomes than
                                                  it is intended to prevent.
                                                  Tactics used by pharmaceutical
                                                  companies to silence dissent:
                                                  29.
                                                  “Pharmaceutical companies are master manipulators.....”, Dr Whitely has stated. “They
                                                  pull the wool over the eyes of drug safety regulators everywhere”. (4) They use a range of tactics
                                                  which can include:
                                                  a.
                                                  Controlling the medical evidence base via influencing clinical trial guidelines; ‘ghost
                                                  writing’ articles for journals; selectively releasin
                                                  g data, and selectively marketing trial results.
                                                  b.
                                                  Utilizing ‘Key Opinion Leaders’ who often have undue influence upon policy – a
                                                  problem the independent Cochrane Collaboration refers to as ‘Eminence Based Medicine’.(10)
                                                  c.
                                                  Maintaining a barrage of websites and blogs that purport to support ‘science’, but embed
                                                  their marketing objectives.
                                                  d.
                                                  Embedding their marketing in established news and information websites.
                                                  e.
                                                  Undertaking virulent campaigns to discredit researchers who question their products.
                                                  Terms such as ‘junk science’, ‘questionable’, ‘not
                                                  evidence based’, and many more are routinely
                                                  used in attempts to discredit researchers who threaten their profit margins.
                                                  f.
                                                  Maintaining a small army of internet trolls to present the interests of pharmaceutical
                                                  companies in online discussion forums, the comments sections of articles, and any other area
                                                  where they can present their views.

                                                • Ese Callum
                                                  Ese Callum  16 hours back

                                                  19.
                                                  If you bought a new car and there was only a one in twelve chance that it would work
                                                  properly, how would you feel? And what if there was a one in three chance that it was downright
                                                  dangerous? Faced by these sorts of statistics, most consumers would be furious. And yet
                                                  according to an article in the ‘Journal of Law, Medicine and Ethics’, entitled ‘Institutional
                                                  Corruption of Pharmaceuticals and the Myth of Safe and Effective Drugs’ this may well be the
                                                  state of affairs with pharmaceutical products.. The
                                                  “.....proportion of new products with
                                                  clinical advantages seems to have moved from about 1 in 8 down to 1 in 12, while the
                                                  proportion with serious harms has gone up from 1 in 5 towards 1 in 3
                                                  ......" (9)
                                                  20.
                                                  Dr Tom Jefferson of the independent Cochrane Collaboration has undertaken
                                                  comprehensive reviews of some vaccines. According to his findings the ‘flu vaccine for example
                                                  showed “
                                                  no effect on specific outcomes:
                                                  laboratory-proven influenza, pneumonia, or deaths
                                                  from pneumonia”. .In other words, the flu vaccine policy, ‘while eminently agreeable, is
                                                  unsupported by evidence that has been systematically collected, critically evaluated, and
                                                  properly synthesised.’ He is wary of the ‘trust us, we’re experts’ pose taken by many policy
                                                  makers. He states that ‘in my opinion,
                                                  that response is only fit for underlings, not intelligent,
                                                  responsible healthcare workers facing th
                                                  e pointy end of a syringe this season
                                                  . (10)
                                                  21.
                                                  It is also worth pondering the words of immunologist Dr Tetyana Obukhanych, author of
                                                  ‘Vaccine Illusion’
                                                  “I am very concerned that “immunologic memory” of adjuvant-containing vaccines is actually
                                                  the basis of sensitization rather
                                                  than the basis of immunity.
                                                  Furthermore, I am very concerned that “successful” prevention of childhood diseases by means
                                                  of short-term protective effects of live attenuated viral vaccines during childhood has led to the
                                                  loss of maternal ability to transfer immuno-protection to their young, thereby leaving infants
                                                  vulnerable to those diseases, should the exposure occur.
                                                  I am also very concerned that vaccination campaigns work by disrupting disease transmission,
                                                  which reduces the chances of exposure, rather than by establishing a population’s immunity. By
                                                  doing so,
                                                  vaccination campaigns wipe out populati
                                                  on’s immunity to childhood diseases
                                                  rather than help to maintain it.
                                                  If in prior decades there was naturally established herd
                                                  immunity to childhood diseases among the adult po
                                                  pulation, then I am af
                                                  raid that vaccination
                                                  campaigns have ensured that it is long gone.
                                                  All of this is a direct outcome of the “desired” vaccination effects, the impact of which hasn’t
                                                  been carefully thought through in advance of introducing mass vaccination.
                                                  We thought that
                                                  vaccines work just like natural immunity. We
                                                  ll, apparently they
                                                  don’t and we are now
                                                  reaping the consequences of that.”
                                                  (11)

                                                • 9 year old soldier
                                                  9 year old soldier  16 hours back

                                                  Anti-vax kids:*Turns 3*
                                                  Anti-vax parents:*Grabs coffin* get the fu*k in here

                                                  • Ese Callum
                                                    Ese Callum  16 hours back

                                                    2.
                                                    Dozens of academic papers and media articles have been reviewed and inputs received
                                                    from immunologists, geneticists, epidemiologists, and various other medical professionals, as
                                                    well as government officials, journalists, risk minimization experts and ethicists globally and
                                                    locally. A large amount of supporting information can be supplied if required.
                                                    Overview:
                                                    3.
                                                    This paper will look at how the medical ev
                                                    idence base has been almost completely
                                                    compromised by pharmaceutical marketing concer
                                                    ns; how the selective release of data skews
                                                    results, and how this is used to mislead policy makers, the medical community and the general
                                                    public.
                                                    4.
                                                    It will look at evidence th
                                                    at some vaccine products and ingredients are implicated in
                                                    neurological harm, autoimmune dysfunction, and other negative health outcomes.
                                                    5.
                                                    It will present a case that the Australian m
                                                    odel of regulation and monitoring is far from
                                                    adequate, and issues of liab
                                                    ility have been largely overlooked. Correct risk minimization
                                                    processes have been inverted, and a lack of transparency has been identified in key areas.
                                                    6.
                                                    It will also look at the media bias surroundi
                                                    ng this issue, and the techniques used by
                                                    pharmaceutical marketing and its allies to suppre
                                                    ss independent journalism and science. It will
                                                    touch upon the appalling record of pharmaceutical companies which includes many instances of
                                                    fraud, bribery, intimidation and deliberate negligence.
                                                    7.
                                                    This paper is not intended to be in any way definitive, but it is meant to give a brief
                                                    overview of the case for policy change, and an urgent review of how pharmaceutical interests
                                                    operate in this country.
                                                    Contamination of the medical evidence base:
                                                    8.
                                                    In 2002 the editor of the Lancet, Dr Richard Horton, claimed that around 90% of clinical
                                                    guidelines are being written by people with financial links to pharmaceutical companies. Since
                                                    then it has been revealed that articles in
                                                    medical journals are being ‘ghost written’ by
                                                    pharmaceutical employees, and that data is being routinely with held.
                                                    "Horton declared, “
                                                    Much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue
                                                    .
                                                    Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and
                                                    flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of
                                                    dubious importance,
                                                    science has taken a turn towards darkness
                                                    .” (1)
                                                    9.
                                                    The work of Dr Peter Doshi and the independent Cochrane Collaboration should give us
                                                    pause for thought.
                                                    “The current system....... is one in which the me
                                                    ager details of clinical trials published in
                                                    medical journals, often by authors with financial ties to the companies whose drugs they are
                                                    writing about,
                                                    is insufficient to the point of being misleading
                                                    ”.(2)
                                                    10.
                                                    The industry has not been slow to respond.
                                                    "The pharmaceutical industry has "mobilised" an army of patient groups to lobby against plans to
                                                    force companies to publish secret documents on drugs trials.
                                                    Drug companies publish only a
                                                    fraction of their results
                                                    and keep much of the information to
                                                    themselves, but regulators want to ban the practice. If companies published all of their clinical
                                                    trials data, independent scientists could re analyse their results and check companies' claims
                                                    about the safety and efficacy of drugs." (3)
                                                    11.
                                                    The much vaunted medical evidence base is in a bad state of disrepair. As Dr Marcia
                                                    Angell, a former editor for the New England Journal of Medicine states,
                                                    "
                                                    It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published,
                                                    or
                                                    to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no
                                                    pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an
                                                    editor of The New England Journal of Medicine. "(4)
                                                    Adverse events following vaccination:
                                                    12.
                                                    Vaccine manufacturers acknowledge a range of adverse reactions in their product
                                                    disclosure information, and there are over forty acknowledged vaccine induced adverse events.
                                                    (5) There is no doubt that vaccines can cause harm, and even death, in some instances. So
                                                    regardless of what anyone may make of individual research papers the fact is that there is
                                                    agreement that vaccination is never entirely safe. There can be risks involved. And efficacy rates
                                                    vary.
                                                    13.
                                                    There are a large amount of research papers discussing possible harm from vaccines
                                                    and/or specific ingredients. The senior post doctoral researchers in vaccine safety at the
                                                    University of British Columbia Professor Chris Sh
                                                    aw and Dr Lucija Tomijanovic have presented
                                                    many papers on the deleterious effects of vaccine adjuvants. They have investigated the
                                                    mechanisms of aluminium based adjuvants in paed
                                                    iatric populations and concluded that children
                                                    have an immune system that is a work in progress, and is far more susceptible to harmful side
                                                    effects. Their
                                                    ‘observations raise plausible concerns about the overall safety of current
                                                    childhood vaccination programs.’
                                                    (6)
                                                    14.
                                                    “Infants and young children should not be viewed as ‘‘small adults.’’ Their unique
                                                    physiology makes them much more vulnerab
                                                    le to noxious environmental insults in
                                                    comparison with the adult population.
                                                    In spite of this, children are routinely exposed to much
                                                    higher levels of Al vaccine adjuvants th
                                                    an adults, even though adequate safety
                                                    data on these compounds are lacking.
                                                    That Al vaccine adjuvants can induce significant
                                                    autoimmune conditions in humans
                                                    can hardly be disputed, a
                                                    lthough still debatable is how
                                                    common such side effects are. However, the existing data (or lack thereof) raise questions on
                                                    whether the current vaccines aimed at pediatric populations can be accepted as having adequate
                                                    safety profiles. Because infants and children represent those who may be most at risk for
                                                    complications following vaccination,
                                                    a more rigorous evaluation of potential vaccine-related
                                                    adverse health impacts in pediatric populations
                                                    than what has been provided to date is
                                                    urgently needed.”
                                                    (6)
                                                    15.
                                                    Tomijanovic states, ‘
                                                    Physicians should adopt a more rigorous evidence-based
                                                    medicine
                                                    approach,
                                                    in order to provide a balanced and objective evaluation of vaccine risks and
                                                    benefits to their patients’ (7)
                                                    16.
                                                    They also concluded that
                                                    “.....in spite of the widespread agreement that vaccines
                                                    are
                                                    largely safe and serious adverse complications are extremely rare, a close scrutiny of the
                                                    scientific literature does not support this view.”(
                                                    6)
                                                    17.
                                                    Professor Yehuda Shoenfeld spoke in Australia in 2013. He has investigated how
                                                    aluminum based adjuvants can trigger auto immune dysfunction if a genetic predisposition
                                                    exists. There is widespread acceptance of his finding that
                                                    aluminium adjuvants can cause
                                                    catastrophic auto im
                                                    mune dysfunction
                                                    (8). He has identified key genetic markers indicative of
                                                    a predisposition towards adverse events, and yet little work seems to be being done identifying
                                                    individuals who may be at risk.
                                                    18.
                                                    Australia is currently experiencing what
                                                    politician Bill Shorten described as an
                                                    ‘epidemic’ of broad spectrum neurological dysfun
                                                    ctions, so if there is the slightest possibility
                                                    that Professor Shaw, Shoenfeld et al are correct, we need to be looking at what other countries
                                                    are doing in this regard. In 2014 France held
                                                    an open enquiry into the issue of aluminium
                                                    adjuvants. So far Australia has avoided looking
                                                    at this issue, or conducting any transparent
                                                    enquiry into the side effects of vaccination.

                                                  • jimmy jimster
                                                    jimmy jimster  17 hours back

                                                    if you take in consideration how if you dont take vaccines it could lead to alot more deaths than taking the vaccines

                                                    • Melvin Yellow
                                                      Melvin Yellow  17 hours back

                                                      Not true, don’t listen. It’s a fact that autosm causes vaccines

                                                    • ABYSS WATCHERS
                                                      ABYSS WATCHERS  17 hours back

                                                      those anti vaxxers wont learn unless they have caused an outbreak that their beloved child is one of the casualties. well stupid people always learn it the hard way i guess.

                                                      • A wild Spitfire
                                                        A wild Spitfire  17 hours back

                                                        I bet 3/4 views are from anti vaxxers

                                                        • Whirlwind12 GMD
                                                          Whirlwind12 GMD  39 minutes back

                                                          The other wuarter is me coming back to this video millions of times to either insult or educate antivaxxers, some deserve more respect that others

                                                      • Dominik Mandic
                                                        Dominik Mandic  18 hours back

                                                        Things that never get old

                                                        1.Dark Humor
                                                        2.Complaining about school😫
                                                        3.Unvaccined kids