Is CGI Getting Worse?

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  • Miike_Snow
    Miike_Snow  9 months back

    I work for a company in Belgium specialized in CGI / render . And All a can say about thoses bad cgi scene is the light is ruining the 3d model. The light is the key in 3D rendering ! http://i.imgur.com/1Golhyn.png

    Just take a look at this kind of 3D render (yes all is in 3D), https://www.artstation.com/artwork/mGbny
    the light is making all the realism in that scene, not the models or the materials. Light and color grading at the best :) !

    • Rick Sanchez
      Rick Sanchez  2 hours back

      I didn't know that. Thanks for that.

    • Ziren Wolf
      Ziren Wolf  3 hours back

      *AALLLAAHUU AKBAAR MOTHAFOKA!!!*

    • MR Dot1
      MR Dot1  2 days back

      @cdreid9999 first of all, it depends what they willing to pay for it.. and the othr thing is.. Pixar's Monsters University in 2013 took 29 hours /frame render time.. it took up to 80 hours to render a single frame of "The Jungle Book," so Disney had to use tens of thousands of computers from the Google Cloud...

    • cdreid9999
      cdreid9999  2 days back

      @Jas Bataille Every cgi artis from hobbyist to pro does this by default....

    • cdreid9999
      cdreid9999  2 days back

      @newage777777 soo.. maya, cinema4d or houdini then? what EVERY studio uses

  • toph2828
    toph2828  4 minutes back

    I think it’s because when cgi wasn’t so common, the filmmakers knew they were taking a risk by using cgi. Nowadays it’s like cgi is the safe option...

    • COF1_D4_N00B
      COF1_D4_N00B  37 minutes back

      How dare you not use Thanos as an exception-

      • alexandru bogdan
        alexandru bogdan  59 minutes back

        Man, you are so fuckin right !

        • Tinbeef
          Tinbeef  1 hours back

          Your content is getting worst! Thats what you should talk about.

          • tperesf
            tperesf  1 hours back

            As an animator, what I can add to what you said is also the extreme streamlining of production, where not all of the people working on the different sections of the animation are keeping track of the final product and how one department affects another....

            • Vlad Tepes
              Vlad Tepes  1 hours back

              what? i thoughttwas all-real.

              • V3ntilator
                V3ntilator  2 hours back

                CGI is the reason why the practical master Rob Bottin quitted movie industry for the rest of his life.

                • Bluebyyou 21
                  Bluebyyou 21  2 hours back

                  Thank you. I couldn't figure out why so many movies over the last couple of years felt... off.

                  • Kim Martin
                    Kim Martin  3 hours back

                    I don't look for these videos but I have long felt this way. I was remembering the pterodactyl in Jurassic Park 3 and compared that with Jurassic World. So glad to know, I'm not the only one who noticed.

                    • Theo Barber
                      Theo Barber  4 hours back

                      SWIM (as this would be a breach of contract to talk about) works in Digital Lighting for Weta Digital, the studio that made Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. Apparently Peter Jackson (Director of both films) has lost his edge over the years. I live in a small city where a large portion of the population is employed by Weta, and whenever my friends are complaining about work, it's commonly about PJ (as he's called). He's well known for changing his mind at the last minute, and as a result a lot of the shots in The Hobbit were rushed, and SWIM had to re light for new angles that were not planned out from the start. This was a nightmare when you also consider that all the actors had to be shot from weird angles so that Bilbo was waist high next to Gandolf.

                      • sheshines4all
                        sheshines4all  4 hours back

                        they're not giving enough $$$ to the effects, effects team, etc. , and overpaying their actors.
                        side note: no one fucking cares about which bankable star you have attached to your film anymore! we care about whether or not its a good film! shit, get it together!

                        • BNSF1995
                          BNSF1995  6 hours back

                          I'd much prefer models to CGI. James Rolfe said it best: "Sometimes, it just looks better when there's really something in front of the camera".

                          • Spookychris01
                            Spookychris01  6 hours back

                            Avatar and black panther...2 of the shittest overhyped movies ever made.

                            • HowlingWolf518
                              HowlingWolf518  6 hours back

                              The problem is more about lack of resources: VFX companies are being forced to do more work in less time with less pay, because there aren't enough artists and because directors use CGI to fix their own mistakes on set. Bad practical effects stand out too - just watch any Ed Wood movie.

                              • Isaac Beard
                                Isaac Beard  8 hours back

                                What is the movie at 7:16?

                                • Gabriel Land
                                  Gabriel Land  8 hours back

                                  Avatar sucked. I walked out.

                                  • Gabriel Land
                                    Gabriel Land  7 hours back

                                    @CJS channel I enjoyed Cameron's movies Abyss and Aliens. I don't know what happened to him. Guess he just sold himself out. Money makes whores of us all.

                                  • CJS channel
                                    CJS channel  7 hours back

                                    I stopped watching Titanic about about 30 minutes and Avatar after about 15 minutes. I could not believe how stupid and cliched it was.

                                • A A P M
                                  A A P M  9 hours back

                                  There's no tention nor climax in Black Panther. It's a seriously flawed movie in about every aspect.

                                  • NicholsKT
                                    NicholsKT  9 hours back

                                    Some of us reached this conclusion a lonngggg time ago. My question is why are there people only just beginning to notice. If more people didn't have such low standards, this trend would never have developed. Stop praising these shitty superhero movies that somehow look faker than cartoons. Cringe-worthy dialogue. Predictable plots, that is when they bother to have a plot. This has been Hollywood's production strategy for over a decade (probably more like two): Comic book conversion/video game CGI cumfests. Yet, there's still such a size-able portion of the viewing audience who swallow this tripe then beg for more.

                                    • mangle 3.0
                                      mangle 3.0  9 hours back

                                      Ok jurassic park used animatronics jurassic world used only cgi (as far as I know) so of corse jurassic park used physical creatures compared to cgi

                                      • Club Head
                                        Club Head  12 hours back

                                        Dude lord of the rings had a great story and won several awards .This vid is a waste of time . Graphics don’t win best picture duh .

                                        • Captain Doomsday
                                          Captain Doomsday  12 hours back

                                          Is the CGI worse, or are the designs and framing worse? People have the decency to hide bad CGI in ways that blend it with the envrionment, but anyone cocky about their CGI will flaunt it, despite it very obviously being CGI.

                                          • interuniversal321
                                            interuniversal321  12 hours back

                                            For me the worst two sins of CGI are inaccurate physics - my brain picks them out immediately, and often linked to that, motion blur to cover up poor CGI. One of the worst examples for me are some of the broomstick fights in Harry Potter.

                                            • Calvin Saxon
                                              Calvin Saxon  13 hours back

                                              Pretty simple principle at work: feature creep, a.k.a. software bloat. Yes, it is at work in CGI as well. It's our new reality. "R&D department, meet the Marketing department. You guys will be working together now forever...at least as long as there is capitalism. Good luck." Result: great stuff, greater, stuff, fantastic stuff, slightly less fantastic bloated stuff, etc.

                                              • Roberto Hradec
                                                Roberto Hradec  13 hours back

                                                I work in the VFX industry since 2004... and the reason things look more artificial is simply MONEY!! The amount of money payed for the vfx studios in Jurassic Park and LOTR is simply waaaaaaaaay more than it's payed today. There's more studios, doing more work for less, and the film industry wants more for less, of course... Hence Digital Domain and Rhythm And Hues declared bankruptcy in the recent years because they simply couldn't operate at size they where. To make things worse, most big VFX Studios are opening branches in Asia, where workforce is even cheaper, to try to maintain the doors opened.

                                                Today is all about doing something fast and "good enough", for a fraction of money from 10 years ago... and it's getting worse and worse...


                                                The reflection of lack of money is excess of pressure on the workforce... People working for long hours and weekends for months... (and in some countries, without extra payments)

                                                That's why vfx is getting worse and worse... it's simple really!

                                                For example, ILM had to CONVINCE Spielberg that CGI could be used for the dinosaurs... He didn't want to do it... he though it would never be as good as go-motion (the motion-blurred stop motion used before cgi)... There was a lot of passion and effort to make it look absolutely amazing with the poor computers they had available at the time. Basically, digital artists WANTED to do it because it was fun, cool and just awesome to do it that way!!!!!


                                                Theses days, artists want to go home and see their kids and NOT HAVE TO WORK ON WEEKENDS AGAIN, like they have being doing for the past 4 months because the vfx studio can't hire more people because there's no budget!!!!!!!!


                                                not to mention the lack of senior people to hire, depending on the country you are and the VISA laws...


                                                it's a shame really...


                                                my 2 cents...


                                                PS: WETA was the vfx studio who did the VFX for The Hobbit, and in my opinion, they haven't being very good in compositing at all (compositing is mixing CG with real images). Just watch King Kong and you'll see how bad it is. It was a poor choice to trust the WHOLE compositing of The Hobbit to Weta since they are not the best with compositing, specially in this case where compositing was ESSENTIAL to make the RED 48 fps digital footage look as film... MPC and ILM would make it WAAAAAY better, and you wouldn't notice the difference. But WETA is not very strong in compositing... in my humble opnion...

                                                • Bob Coleman
                                                  Bob Coleman  14 hours back

                                                  Great comments on here!! Totally agree with this video. Just compare the T-Rex in the first Jurassic Park to the dinos at the beginning of Transformers: Age of Extinction. How can the T-Rex which was over 20 years old look way better than the dinos in Tranformers???

                                                  • Roland Gonzales
                                                    Roland Gonzales  15 hours back

                                                    Cgi turns to crap when physics is thrown out the window or when things are moving so fast that it's clear no person would be able to function and make fighting decisions in reality. One doesn't need a degree in physics, the mind naturally recognizes this and discounts what it is seeing as fake even if the person viewing the movie is impressed with the story or the set and costume design in the movie.

                                                    • Crazybawrks
                                                      Crazybawrks  16 hours back

                                                      I believe we call it "The Uncanny Valley"

                                                      • Ddot Cdot
                                                        Ddot Cdot  16 hours back

                                                        CGI hasn't gotten worse. FILMMAKERS have gotten worse.

                                                        • Timo Noorman
                                                          Timo Noorman  17 hours back

                                                          and why the blackpanther vs winter soldier is better than black panther vs killmonger. because chadwick boseman and sebastian stan used choreography and no gci that was used in the black panther movie

                                                          • Timo Noorman
                                                            Timo Noorman  17 hours back

                                                            the thing with lotr gci is. peter jackson had more time with making the gci. in the hobbit the kind ran out of time

                                                            • BonyXVIII
                                                              BonyXVIII  17 hours back

                                                              It's not getting worse, we're just becoming over-reliant on it

                                                              • Christoph Rondeau
                                                                Christoph Rondeau  17 hours back

                                                                There's also the fact that you were nearly 20 years younger when Lord of the Rings was released, and most of what you are disappointed by is copies or sequels to the original. Movie ratings generally go down depending on the age of the viewer. Older people just aren't as impressed by movies... now you and I are both older viewers than we once were.

                                                                • Rocky Balboa
                                                                  Rocky Balboa  18 hours back

                                                                  Most movies use CGI and compositing, its just do good you would never notice it.

                                                                  The Social Network for example (winklevoss twins)

                                                                  Brokeback Mountain (hundreds of cgi sheep)

                                                                  And pretty much every other modern movie. Lots of them will adjust backgrounds to make it appear more pleasing or give an increased feeling of presence inside a certain time period or geographical location.

                                                                  • flipingboredcritic
                                                                    flipingboredcritic  18 hours back

                                                                    Some CGI can look bad cause Studios rush the production. Not giving enough time for the CG artist to render out the scenes fully. When you have Studios rushing the CGI scenes, this is when you get bad CG, most of the time. Not to mention, those CG artists working over time to finish those CGI scenes, usually don’t get paid overtime. Blame the studios for rushing the production.

                                                                    • RP Mc'murphy
                                                                      RP Mc'murphy  18 hours back

                                                                      I felt exactly the same about the hobbit.iwas looking forward to it so much, then slowly, it just started to annoy me more and more
                                                                      the scene with legolas is the here is the best example .by the time of the battle of the five army's i just wanted it to end, leave the cinema and never watch a hobbit/LOTR movie ever again..

                                                                      • Peter de Man
                                                                        Peter de Man  20 hours back

                                                                        I agree. I just looked at some old movies that use no cgi. They look and feel so much better, its real... And you say it correct the cgi models have no weight. autotune for music and CGI for film both do the same. It's ruining the art and make it less enjoyable to watch and listen.

                                                                        • spidertown1
                                                                          spidertown1  20 hours back

                                                                          cut corners and things look worse ..also it all comes down to who does it and how good do they want it to look .. a stradivarius is still considered to be the best violin because of the way it was made and who made it ,some people are just better at doing CGI and some people will be happy with cheaper less impressive CGI .

                                                                          • Yuri Lopes
                                                                            Yuri Lopes  21 hours back

                                                                            This is happening because studios wants to make those movies in a fast way , to sell fast and make another movie, and sell again.

                                                                            Artists are creating new realities, even when you as artist are creating something that you already made, each experience is new. You need to test things, is a circle of planning, making and testing, and you need time to do this.

                                                                            Artist aren't computers, they can't just press buttons and create, well... actually even computer need time to work.

                                                                            • Mihael Stojanovif
                                                                              Mihael Stojanovif  21 hours back

                                                                              i dont think that you are right because i think it lookds better in hobbit thajn in lotr it doesnt look spongy at all

                                                                              • CinemaSans
                                                                                CinemaSans  21 hours back

                                                                                It's getting better in the Marvel films, it's getting worse in the DC films!

                                                                                • LaSeanAbSOLute
                                                                                  LaSeanAbSOLute  21 hours back

                                                                                  The Hobbit has the worst CGI I've ever seen.

                                                                                  • Rick L.
                                                                                    Rick L.  21 hours back

                                                                                    The technology still hasn't developed far enough.

                                                                                    • 5jerry1
                                                                                      5jerry1  22 hours back

                                                                                      ~ Although it's dated and has limitations, I would take practical effects ANY day.

                                                                                      • Josh Abrey
                                                                                        Josh Abrey  24 hours back

                                                                                        Hammer on the head bud

                                                                                        • MzNCNYC20
                                                                                          MzNCNYC20  1 days back

                                                                                          I totally agree with what you're saying but to the average movie goer who just wants to escape and to tell their friends they saw it, they aren't that technically and critical about the effects, if it looks and sounds like garbage, any rational human being won't waste their money. and why the hell are you watching these movies in IMAX? smh LOL that alone is expensive and sucks.

                                                                                          • De LaMar
                                                                                            De LaMar  1 days back

                                                                                            Very nice thoughts here. But its very simple IMHO. ILM (Industrial Light & Magic) is the key here. Its the #1 CGI company in the world. Basically every blockbuster hit movie is done by them. Also most mentioned in this video btw. ILM became so thought after during the last decades that they simply cannot keep up with the demand anymore. And as all businesses do, they prioritise based on budget and deadline. In other words, the bigger the movie, the more resources get attached to it. Simple as that.

                                                                                            • Nikolei Falkon
                                                                                              Nikolei Falkon  1 days back

                                                                                              the answer is limited budget+hardware+deadline, add recently graduated 3D artists and you have the full answer.